Glen Forest Community Meetings

Glen Forest Community Meetings

Glen Forest Community Meeting Feedback

December 13, 2018

 

Possible Solutions:  Glen Forest Drive, Boundary Change, Designated Access Road

In small groups, discuss and answer the following questions:

  • What are the merits for each of the possible solutions?
  • What are the concerns for each of the possible solutions?
  • What recommendations would you like the school division to consider?

 

Glen Forest Drive

  • DOT traffic study should include study of Robinwood and Spring Lane
    • Incentives for kids to take the bus minimizing private vehicles
  • Recommend restrictive parking on one side during hours 8:30 am – 5 pm
  • Recommend no parking near stop light on east side of Glen Forest
  • Satellite parking for teachers – shopping center?
  • Pro: Get accurate data
  • Con:  eliminating staff parking on road – where would they park?

Boundary Change

  • Excellent idea
  • Use under-enrolled facilities – cost effective
  • Grandfather
  • Pro: Would alleviate overcrowding (possibly)
  • Con:
    • Overcrowding just moves to another (= kicking the can)
    • Would it really impact the traffic? How many buses would be removed?
    • Kids uprooted to a new school
    • Would require boundary study to determine how feasible/total # ppl that could move

Designated Access Road

  • Major & costly infrastructure change (curbing, sidewalks, power lines, storm drainage (flooding)
  • Disruption – noise, light, air pollution for adjacent houses
  • Major traffic congestion on road already used as a commuter cut-through
  • Poor visibility at intersection of Robinwood & Spring Lane
  • Pro: 
    • alleviates bus turnaround/bottleneck on Glen Forest
    • Short street →not impacting as many residents as Glen Forest Drive route
    • Would be managed as bus access only (which Glen Forest doesn’t have)
    • Will be much faster to unload & load buses with kids = move efficient
    • With a less bottlenecked process comes safer conditions for kids (ie: fewer vehicles converging in one area where kids are walking)
  • Con: impact to Spring Lane residents during limited times
  • Concerns:
    • Where exactly would pass through be located? Map needed!
    • How would this impact K&R? Alleviate GF Dr. traffic?
    • Concerns about running road behind townhouses           
      • Only remaining greenspace near school and community
      • Part of semi-contiguous greenway from Spring Hill park to Long Branch
      • Grade change to reach parking lot is too significant
      • Already have flooding issues from runoff of portables
      • Too narrow a space
      • (hand drawn map showing alternative traffic/transportation routes submitted)
  • Open road by shopping center – one way

New Solutions/Recommendations

  • New building/renovation – consider long term needs of student body, more space
  • Go through Crossroads Center (obtain legal right of way), drop students off next to Safeway onto soccer fields
  • Split school into pre-K – 2nd grade, 3rd-5th grades in another building
  • Teacher parking at Crossroads Center with gate, lights, and cameras
  • Buses on gravel parking lot behind the soccer field to shopping center to Payne Street to Rte. 7 (behind stores Old Navy, AC Moore, BB&B) or Moray Lane
  • Permit system for Kiss & Ride based on distance or special needs (to lower # of private vehicles) (unofficial Kiss & Ride on end of Spring Lane)
  • Double shift school hours
  • All students arriving by car must use Kiss & Ride
  • Why do parents park and walk their students in?  Change perception: it’s not faster? Would need an “enforcer”
  • Sidewalks would ↓cars on street, ↓traffic in and out
  • Traffic officer
  • Open Moray Lane access (to Crossroads Shopping Center) only during arrival and dismissal
  • Multi-level parking for staff
  • Connect to mall parking lot b/w Safeway and Old Navy
  • Expand teacher parking – so can have less parking near school on Glen Forest Dr.
  • 170+ staff and 110 parking spaces!!
  • No street parking last 3 blocks of drive from 9-9:30 and 3:45-4:30
  • Golf cart shuttle from mall area
  • Lease space from shopping center for parking
  • Redo the walkways by the soccer field
  • Buy out the owner of the property next to school and expand parking, etc. *
  • Segregate processes…buses only, Kiss & Ride

Glen Forest Community Meeting Feedback

October 3, 2018

In small groups, discuss and answer the following questions:

  • What is working well?
  • What needs more attention?
  • What should be the priorities as we rethink our space?
  • What are possible solutions for the school division to consider?

What is working well?

  • Crowding isn’t noticeable (at least to the kids)
  • Admins very creative in maximizing space
  • Lots of “out of box” thinking
  • Teachers/staff fantastic/build family
  • Gym, field, play spaces
  • Being fair/being nice – improve communication with parents
  • Classroom environment
  • Be open to the diversity in the class
  • Child wants to be here → happy!
  • International night
  • Bingo night 
  • Education is excellent
  • Co-teaching 
  • Flexible families 
  • Flexible staff
  • School offers large translation 
  • Specials
  • After-school specials
  • Miracle scheduling (specials, cafeteria,…)
  • 3 of each specials (PE, music, art!)
  • Excellent
  • Breakfast for all students, one less thing parents have to worry about
  • Interpreters for parents 
  • Assistance with finding bus

What needs more attention?

  • Not enough space
  • Traffic – solutions need to be community friendly
  • Trailers – weather impacts? Kids impacted physically and mentally (focus, etc.)
  • Cafeteria – lunches too early/too late
  • Kiss N Ride/bus line safety - (bus/cars converging, accidents) teachers work longer b/c of delayed bus pickups
  • More space
  • Early start
  • No more bullying 
  • Bigger cafeteria
  • Daily checklist of communication
  • Buses to arrive/pick up & drop off on time
  • Partnership with Willston Center for after school in the 7 Corners area – bus takes students
  • Bus arrives too late at stop in afternoon
  • Kids should not run out of school while buses are present
  • The traffic, full of cars and buses, parents can’t drive
  • Old building
  • Overcrowding 
  • Transportation (19 buses and cars)
  • Cul-de-sac 
  • Safety (emergency vehicles)
  • Parking lots
  • Better language translation (emergency)
  • AC on buses
  • Too many modulars
  • Cafeteria – feeding schedule
  • Staff bathrooms
  • Student pick up – walkers
  • Traffic on Glen Forest – getting into or getting out of Glen Forest
  • Spanish classes for all students so if a child returns to their country they will know the language
  • We want to develop better communication with the office. It’s hard to call the school.
  • There are children standing up on the back of the bus and that’s dangerous.
  • 4 children in 1 chair is dangerous.
  • Bus is hot.
  • (translated) They are complaining about bus No. 8 and bus No. 15 going to Skyline Plaza building. The kids in in buses from head start to 5th grade. Which make the kids in trouble with each other, bullying. They are saying (parents? principal?) can’t solve the problems. They are asking for different buses, one from head start to grade 1 and the other bus from grades 2-5. Or you could add more assistance in each bus and another aide. One bus go to the east building and one to the west. 
  • They are believe the trailers are not good for the kids in case of emergency. 
  • The room for STEM room is very small. They are asking for big room to allow more students to attend the class. Also the equipment is not good to be use.

What should be the priorities as we rethink our space?

Priority Order:

  1. Not enough parking spaces
  2. More space needed for loading and unloading buses
  3. Traffic is a problem in the backdoor neighborhood for walkers (kids)
  4. Lack of covered walkways outside
  5. Different restrooms for boys and girls in kindergarten

Priorities - New school/expand school and more classes and space Rethinking space – more room for buses, reconfigure parking and traffic flow School could be bigger so they won’t have trailers

What are possible solutions for the school division to consider?

  • A new school – make it bigger, vertically and horizontally
  • Early classes in one school, upper classes in another one
  • Expand the cafeteria
  • Traffic pattern shifts to alleviate congestion
  • Stagger pick up/drop off times
  • Redistricting to other schools
  • Busses can use back door to drop/pick up
  • Open back gate sooner for walkers (before and after school)
  • Tie night like this (meeting) to events like international night and bingo night so more people come
  • Crossing guard at Spring lane
  • Restructuring kiss & ride routes to enlarge parking and bus space
  • Scatter dismissal by certain grades at certain times
  • Build more classrooms or cover the walkways
  • Build separate restrooms in kindergarten 
  • 2 stories above
  • Street outlets onto Spring Lane, shopping center?
  • Buy neighboring house/properties
  • Change boundaries
  • Make front parking lot for buses only
  • No parking on Glen Forest Drive in front of school during school hours
  • Add on to existing building or build new school – use field space for something

The comments below have been added above:

Spanish comments: Excellent We want to develop better communication with the office. It’s hard to call the school. There are children standing up on the back of the bus and that’s dangerous. 4 children in 1 chair is dangerous. Bus is hot

Spanish comments: Education is excellent Kids should not run out of school while buses are present The traffic, full of cars and buses, parents can’t drive School could be bigger so they won’t have trailers

Arabic comments: They are complaining about bus No. 8 and bus No. 15 going to Skyline Plaza building. The kids in in buses from head start to 5th grade. Which make the kids in trouble with each other, bullying. They are saying (parents? principal?) can’t solve the problems. They are asking for different buses, one from head start to grade 1 and the other bus from grades 2-5. Or you could add more assistance in each bus and another aide. One bus go to the east building and one to the west.  They are believe the trailers are not good for the kids in case of emergency.  The room for STEM room is very small. They are asking for big room to allow more students to attend the class. Also the equipment is not good to be use.